Hi guys, it's been a while. Here is an experiment that I feel is relevant to explain how this device may be able to run on its own with no input other than a back turn or a push. Get a bar of metal about a metre long. Find the centre of gravity and balance it on your finger/s. Move the centre of gravity further from the center. Notice how the further you move the center of gravity the faster the speed the bar moves. When the center of gravity is moved enough, the speed required for the pendulum to extend itself fully will occur, in theory it should pump the flywheel around and around if the frame is solid. I have all the bits to prove this one out now. Everything being good it will be done today and I'll pick it up tomorrow. I will more than likely be painting the frame, flywheels, arms and weights to make it easy to see on video. I have a simple mod which will make this run continuously regardless of whether it will from a push or back spin. Three 20mm x 20mm diametrically magnetized neodymium magnets. One fixed to each of the weights and one at the 3 o'clock position attached to the frame with adjustment. The ones I already have are 10kg pull. Two in repulsion positions should give somewhere near 20kg push downwards with gravity, centrifugal force, inertia and leverage assisting. Should be interesting! I just wanted to say thanks for all the support some of you have given me. I have been spurred on by all the positive and negative. Is it hat eating time yet? What do I get for enduring this thread all these years hey? lol Best regards, Paul STANDBY!