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    Discussion in 'The main mechanical design forum' started by topher5150, Jul 21, 2017.

    1. topher5150

      topher5150 Active Member

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      A couple of months ago I lost my job, and have been working with a recruiter to help me in getting a job. Well he called me about a month ago about an opportunity of a life time. Every time I asked him about the job he would tell me that either something has come up with some one in the department, and I'm going to have to wait, or something about the department having to figure some things out before they go ahead with hiring.
      Now it's been about two weeks since I've heard from the recruiter, and I'm at the point where I'm ready to call up the company itself and ask if the job even exists.
      I really wan to get a job, and this job seems like something that I've been waiting for all my life, but I don't want to blow an opportunity.
      Any advice would be great.
       
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    3. jamjumpin

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      Agencies are the scum of the Earth. I always go direct.
      Quite often jobs do not exist they're just trying to harvest CVs.
      One trick I use is to find the senior or design manager on linkedin and contact them.

      OR, just ring the company and explain, just checking the job existed cos I'm being messed around. All companies know how shit agencies are and how they operate so they shouldn't be bothered by you doing that.
       
    4. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Oof! That's a tough one. Good luck landing the role.
      I think, maybe, you should call up your recruiter, and ask if they mind if you call the company direct. If they can't give you a good reason why not to, go ahead. Just be clear when you call that you're working through the recruiter, but just want an update on what's going on. I don't think anyone can fault you.
      Try to get a manager, rather than HR. I imagine someone in engineering is less likely to blow you off or be bothered that you're not using the proper channels.

      Sometimes you have to wonder what is going on with some roles. I know there was a role I was very interested in a few months back when I was looking. I was talking to the internal recruiter, even, not someone outside the company, and kept getting strung along. They've had hundreds of applicants, and they keep on reposting the position - it's been up for over a year now, I believe. No idea what's up with that.
       
    5. Erich

      Erich Well-Known Member

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      The company's behavior is telling you loud and clear that they are scum and would be a lousy place to work. Run away and don't look back. If they are willing to abuse you now, it won't get better if you accept an offer.
       
    6. MSHOfficial

      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      My friend once had a situation like this in Netherlands. He badly needed a full-time job, because his part time wasn’t paying him enough and the recruitment company showed him offer of a lifetime in one of the biggest manufacturing companies in Europe. It sounded like the offer was too good to be true for his qualifications. Nevertheless, my friend went ahead paid a fee for the job application and actually landed the job after 2 months of interviewing.

      In another occasion, one of my seniors landed a job in the US while he was still working back home in an Asian country using one of these recruitment agencies. He had to pay some money for the CV and all but after everything it did work out. He now earns a lot and still pays the recruitment agencies a lot.

      The point of these two stories are the jobs these two guys found were above their level if they directly went to the company. I am very sure the recruitment agency was a big reason for these guys to get these jobs.

      It might not always be the case. But I just wanted to inform you guys that its not always a scam.
       
    7. GoodCat

      GoodCat Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      A friend of mine!

      If you are a true professional and meet the requirements of the company, then I think there is no difference for the employer if you contact him yourself and will not wait for feedback from the agency

      Remember the employer is primarily interested in hiring a professional. The employer has a problem and he needs a specialist to solve this problem, therefore the employer is looking for employees.

      if you are an excellent specialist and you have a good summary of this already enough to invite you for an interview. Interview already and determine your place among other applicants for this position.

      Do not think that the agency is doing something unimaginable in order for you to get this job. Agency just helps you competently present you to your employer in order to arouse his interest and nothing more.

      It all depends on you )

      the result of the actions of the agency in any case will be an invitation to you for an interview with the company. it is precisely this moment that matters and is paramount when choosing an employee for a competitive position.

      No agency will pass for you an interview successfully, everything is only in your hands. )
       
    8. john12

      john12 Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Like many industries - there are good and bad operators.

      One of my engineering friends recently got 'headhunted' by an agency for a really good job, way above his current grade.

      I was telling my wife about it and she basically started laughing straight away. She has a pretty good(non-engineering) job and gets "head-hunted" all the time but usually these people just call up the potential employee, tell them about a non-existent role, get all of the their details and then call up the employer and say, "Hey! I've got this great person for this role...!"
      So, often it's the agency just chancing it.

      However... in this case it was genuine and my friend actually got this great job!

      So I guess you have to take each situation individually and assess them one by one!


      In this particular case, I'd call up the agency and firmly them what's happening. Just say that you need to know the current situation before you get off the phone.
       

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