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    1. MSHOfficial

      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Couple of months ago my brother in law who uses an iphone was travelling from Germany to Australia via turkey. He had the same situation, he arrived into turkey, looked at the time and thought he has ample amount of time left, so he got a coffee and sat to do some work. Later when he went to the gate he realized his flight had already left by then. Didn’t have google to save him, sadly. He ended up paying 1300 euros extra in flight tickets.

      So AI is scary yes but its also good.
       
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      john12 Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Ouch! Those are almost the worst flights to miss - when you're actually there and waiting anyway but you don't realise the time. Somehow it seems worse than getting stuck in traffic or something.
       
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      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Its of course worse than getting stuck in traffic. For example, you wouldn’t need to spend 1300 Euros if you got stuck in traffic. the company was paying for his previous trip but when he missed the flight he had to pay the rest of it from his own pocket. Sadly.

      Luckily, I didn’t miss my flight because I was paying for it myself. I would have to pay the fare twice and not even fly in business class with it.
       
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      Yeah, they often really sting you on last minute tickets. Once my airline went out of business (in the big recession) but I stupidly didn't check until I got to the airport, and I didn't have travel insurance so I had to buy a new ticket with a different airline and they absolutely rinsed me!
       
    6. MSHOfficial

      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Oh my! That would be sad. The company that you had the previous ticket from should have paid for your new ticket though. That’s the rule in the airlines industry. But you have to scream a little in the airport for that.

      My dad was once supposed to buy me a short haul flight while I was in the long haul flight with a connection so I didn’t have connection to the internet. So I told him to buy me a ticket because my card doesn’t work online in the country that I was travelling to, he couldn’t buy it for me either for some reason and I only found out after 16 hours of travelling and coming to the airport and had to buy the ticket last minute from the sales counter.

      Last moment tickets are worse. Once I had an option to choose from 500 EUR for economy or 550 EUR for business on a one way 3 hour flight. So obviously I chose the business class option. Probably was a good deal compared to flying in economy but then in reality was a good deal at all? That flight should have costed me 100-150 euros max. if I had bought it couple of hours earlier.
       
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      Yeah, there was no one there though - they had all been sacked a few weeks earlier!
      I eventually got the money for the first ticket back from my Credit Card but it was much less than the replacement ticket cost.

      Ouch, your version sounds crazy-expensive. At least you got to sit in Business though, but I suppose for three hours it's not really worth it.
       
    8. MSHOfficial

      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Yes totally not worth it because. I didn’t get to use the lounge because the flight was in 1 hour I just rushed through the airport to go to my gate. I didn’t use the amazing fast track security check in or anything as such because I bought the ticket from inside the airport because I didn’t immigrate in that country I just used it as a transit. I didn’t use the extra baggage because my bags were already half the weight from the inbound flight. Above everything, I wanted a freaking window seat and they could only offer me an aisle seat. The food and alcohol and the seat was only thing different than the economy class for my flight. I didn’t even use the A380-800 shower because the flight was just 3 hours I didn’t have the time to eat my 5 course meal and take a shower. So yeah not worth it at all. But whatever it was, it was good
       
    9. tmark938

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      Does anyone think engineers will ever be able to create an AI system which is able to "think outside of the box" or be swayed by emotion (which is not always a bad thing?).

      It has taken millions of years for humans to evolve - can AI really make up that jump in just a few years?
       
    10. MSHOfficial

      MSHOfficial Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Well I guess that’s what we were talking about google assistant. It understands your feelings when you talk to it, if you are angry or sad, etc. Well it took humans years to evolve but now that we are the brim of it, the AI we develop it starts from the level of human intelligence right now. And also AI can do everything that a human can do, but faster, right?! So I think yeah if humans do develop an AI it will evolve much faster than humans.

      Emotions and thinking outside the box already exists slightly in AI these days. I guess within the next couple of years we will have AI that would do this in no time and surpass the human thinking capacity.
       
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      I am not truely convinced we will ever be in a situation where an AI robot will be able to think like a human - I mean taking emotion into account when making a decision. To understand this we need to understand how humans act on emotion. An emotion that might sway your decision might not have the same impact on me. Therefore, how do you teach an AI robot? Does each one have a similar characteristic to its "maker"?

      The bottom line is that humans dont always think logically :)
       

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