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    Discussion in 'The main mechanical design forum' started by mcarmen, Apr 6, 2015.

    1. mcarmen

      mcarmen New Member

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      I am designing a single stage telescopic cylinder to raise and lower a ferry terminal walkway.

      I am looking for any help in locating any relevant design codes or standards dealing with cylinder buckling and how to calculate.

      Any help will be greatly appreciated.
       
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    3. Lochnagar

      Lochnagar Well-Known Member

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      Hi Mcarmen,

      I might suggest you discuss this with chartered structural engineers in your part of the world - who are experienced in this particular field, and also experienced in the design codes in your particular part of the world.

      However, one design code I have used a part of in the past is the Lloyds design standard for Lifting Appliance in a Marine Environment. If you have a look at section 2.22 on page 14 it deals with the allowable stress – Buckling failure of thin walled Cylinders.

      There maybe (I don't know) more stringent safety factors required in view of the fact that people are crossing this walkway. I would have notionally have thought that the "client" (the ferry terminal owner) would also need to agree a "design standard" with you as part of the contract - since they should be stipulating to you - to what standards it has to be designed to.

      http://www.12hoist4u.com/index.php/page/getFileUID/uid/3ea02ee217a5fb5efe310c0672ff5954/cr_usedb/25

      Hope this general advice is of some help.
       
    4. Alan B

      Alan B Member

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      Without coming across the wrong way, and agreeing with Lochnagar, if you need to ask that question then should you really be doing the project?
       
    5. nick1986

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      The buckling load of a cylinder has many factors that need to be taken into account including tubes sizes, clearances, overlap lengths and angle of the cylinder to name a few. I work for a company who manufactures telescopic hydraulic cylinders and we use a cimouter program to calculate the buckling load as these are multistage cylinders. Send me a message to discuss further.
       
    6. dutchmale1

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      Fea

      I have done some buckling analyses with the use of FEA. If you have a 3D model, contact me and I might be able to provide some assistance.

      regards,
      Henk
       
    7. invincible

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      Hi mcarmen,
      A simple suggestion from me would be to look into the Lifting equipment directives (Different codes in each continent) and FEM standards (Globally acceptable for designing or load barriers, structural etc); they have detailed design calculations and the allowable limits.
      Since this lifting equipment (or part of the lifting mechanism) is used for people you will need to have a more stringent regulation as mentioned by Lochnagar, within the Lifting equipments directive.

      Let us know if these info were useful
       
    8. invincible

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      And...just to add to my reply here are the standard which you will need to check the buckling its ISO/TS 13725
      Asides, for the complete design and selection you shall check with ISO 6020 - Part 1, 2, & 3 which is for selection of Cylinders based on the load & ISO 6022 for calculating the loading and positioning of the load barrier.

      Hope this helps you

      PS: My earlier reply was taking into consideration the lifiting equipment but now I change so did a re-check with my engineering colleagues to help you :)
       

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