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    Discussion in 'The Leisure Lounge' started by Justcurioustwo, Nov 9, 2019.

    1. Justcurioustwo

      Justcurioustwo Well-Known Member

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      You continue to dodge the collective energy output of multiple balloons tied together and pulling together at one moment in time while you only need to fill one balloon to keep the system running, It is the torque power you ignore.

      Having said the above, you have won this debate & I have given up on this idea.

      Weinber, congratulations; you be da winner.
      BTW: You never pointed out what the flaw is except to say the system uses a lot of energy and not taking into account the huge value of torque power being produced

      bye
       
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    3. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      I am not dodging anything. Pretty sure you admitted as much some pages ago.

      Using up a bunch of energy to prime a system, then looking only at the system that now has embedded power, with you no longer spending any energy, ignoring the work you just did to make it so, isn't clever. It's asinine.
       
    4. Justcurioustwo

      Justcurioustwo Well-Known Member

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      The energy to prime the system is a one time event. Once done all you need to keep the system running is to add a balloon at the bottom while getting the torque power of multiple balloons pulling together.

       
    5. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Completely irrelevant. Every balloon you extract energy from has that energy because you put it in.

      You really need to go back and learn the basics on work, power and energy
       
    6. Justcurioustwo

      Justcurioustwo Well-Known Member

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      I told you I was giving up on this idea and I am, except for this one last point.

      Example—

      You need to crack open this walnut.
      It takes 15 pounds of force to crack the shell.
      The only force you have is five (5) pounds, the shell will not crack.
      If you can combine the (5) pounds together in one blow the shell will crack.

      What changed that allowed me to crack the shell-?

      No I don't. I quit
      :)-
       
    7. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      What happened is that you managed to (in some unspecified way, in your example) expend 3x the energy to use 3x the energy.
       
    8. Justcurioustwo

      Justcurioustwo Well-Known Member

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      I was looking for a new source of energy knowing that fossil fuels are nearing depletion.

      The seaengine was my effort in that direction.

      My idea has flaws I could not overcome.

      bye
       

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