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    1. Justcurioustwo

      Justcurioustwo Member

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      You continue to miss the point. This has nothing to do with repeatedly kicking a ball. The diagram below speaks for itself.
      seaengine14.jpg

      On the right side there are several balloons lifting "together" while it only takes the energy to fill one balloon to maintain the system. This is the multiplying effect.
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    3. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      Nope, not missing the point I'd draw an equivalent diagram, but I'm too lazy :)
      Here's the lazy version

      -> -> -> -> -> ->O

      This is the diagram of the kicks I've done, plus the new kick on the right. Speaks for itself, really.

      There is the force of several kicks adding together (to the speed), while it only takes the energy of one kick to maintain the system (increase speed). At this moment, I am kicking it once, but it has the speed of 6 kicks! This is the multiplying effect.
       
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      You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
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    5. Justcurioustwo

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      Battery storage – the future

      Our future energy sources are well known.

      [1] wave power

      [2] wind power

      [3] solar power

      [4] you fill in the blank ___________

      All these never-ending energy sources have one very big flaw.

      The ocean sometimes goes calm and the wave power stops

      The wind stops blowing & the energy from it stops too

      The sun sets, clouds cover the sky & the light of the sun is blocked

      Whatever you fill in online [4] is not a 24-hour source of energy. There will be dead spots in these sources

      The future for us is the ability to “store” those energy sources for future needs.

      That storage mechanism is the “battery”; that is our future.

      If you want a piece of the pie; I strongly suggest you invest in hydrogen fuel cells.

      Our cars will have a large hydrogen fuel cell under their car and when the battery needs recharging all you have to do is drive your vehicle over an exchanger, the exchanger reaches up; removes the discharged battery and replaces it with a freshly charged one. Now your off to do what you do with a 300-mile charge to get you where you want to go.

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    7. Justcurioustwo

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      I agree there is a lot of energy spent to prime the system, but once it is primed the energy needed to keep the system running is less than the output energy giving you a positive energy return,
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    8. s.weinberg

      s.weinberg Well-Known Member EngineeringClicks Expert

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      The energy return is only positive until a maximum of excess energy extracted equaling the priming energy.

      Probably much less, practically.
      Then the energy return will be, at best, neutral. Probably quite negative, practically
       

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